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William G. Vicars, Ph.D.
MCSE, MCT, MCP+I, A+, Network+, EdNet
|Opening "Chat Log Session #2"
Vince: Hi, all
Jessie: evening all
[Lots of "hello's" and chit chat.]
DrVicars: While we are waiting to begin, let's hear any comments you have about the site.
Vince: anyone have trouble getting in here this week?
Kloos: No it worked out well
Jessie: Sites great, 20 minutes to get online
Season: No trouble at all.
Lii: I enjoyed the site. It helped me to get much better pictures of the
fingerspelling than I've
DrVicars: Anyone have trouble with or questions about the homework?
Lii: No trouble:)
Kloos: No, but it turns out my kids know the fingerspelling.
Daniel: Do I read the pictures right? Is the sign for "2" and the sign for "V" the same?
DrVicars: Yes, 2 and "V" are the same. In normal conversation though,
it is never a problem.
DrVicars: Okay then, let's get started. First a word about protocol.
DrVicars: Protocol for this class will involve using Instant Messages for discussions
DrVicars: Agenda for tonight. Q and A about spelling. Discussion about
spelling. Q and A
DrVicars: If you want to change the subject wait for an appropriate time or...
Tigie: Sorry I'm late
DrVicars: Hi Tigie, anyway, wait for a good time to speak up or use an
"!" to indicate you have
[Many yes responses.]
DrVicars: GA Buzz
Aimie: I'm confused
Buzz: Sorry I'm late, is it "q" or "?" when we want to ask a question?
DrVicars: I accept both , In ASL on the TTY we use a q, here we use either.
DrVicars: GA Aimie why confused?
Aimie: Nevermind I understand. I just wasn't here last week.
DrVicars: Okay, any q's about the fingerspelling?
Kloos: M and N appear to be the same, how do I sign the difference?
DrVicars: The M uses three fingers over the thumb, the N uses only two. Does that help
or do I
Kloos: Thank you, that does it.
DrVicars: How do you make double letters ? Anybody know ?
Tigie: Move your hand?
Jessie: Do it twice side to side.
Lii: Do you sign the letter and move slightly for the next letter?
Tigie: That's what I meant.
DrVicars: Right. You can use a small bounce, (and I do mean small!), or slightly
move the letter
Lii: What happens when you accidentally sign the wrong letter? Do you just redo it?
DrVicars: I just redo it. I guess you could wave the hand back and forth in the
air little bit as if
Art: I have a hypercard shareware that shows the ASL alphabet.
DrVicars: That is good. How can the others get a copy of it ?
Art: If people want it, just send me e-mail and I will send it.
DrVicars: Thanks Artz.
Buzz: Is it ok to print from your site all the info?
DrVicars: For your personal use? Yes. All of it is fine for non-commercial use.
DrVicars: Let's move on to numbers. Any questions about the number system?
Nicola: When signing 11, do you just move the index finger up once, or twice?
DrVicars: I do it twice.
DrVicars: Why do we use the M for the number thousand? [Note: One of the ways to
Gwen: Same as Roman numerals.
DrVicars: Right Gwen, back in the "old days" it started out as an
"M" but it has mutated to a
Sharp: I found it difficult to sign the letter F am I trying to straighten the fingers too much?
DrVicars: I only straighten the pinkie and ring fingers. I let the middle bend
half-way. Does that
DrVicars: When you do numbers, you do them pretty much the same as you say them in
DrVicars: Are we all set on numbers then?
[lots of yes responses]
Crazy: I don't understand how to do # 16 and on. Do I move my right or my left
DrVicars: Numbers change from region to region so check with your local deaf
Crazy: Do I move my right towards my left?
DrVicars: No. Let me go over 16 and up. There are generally two ways to do
Tigie: ok thanks
Lii: How do I sign the 20's? I seem to have trouble with those numbers.
DrVicars: Again we have at least two ways. The simplest is to do the number
"2" then the next
Most people tend to bounce the number "2" twice to represent the concept of
Crazy: So only one hand is use for those numbers we just discussed?
DrVicars: Yes, that is correct.
Crazy: No wonder I was confused, I was thinking it was 2 hands!
Art: What does "L" have to do with it?
DrVicars: "L" has nothing to do with it. That is just the way deaf
people do it. Try to not think
Lii: I don't.
KC: Looks like what it is?
DrVicars: Right KC. The sign for cat visually represents a cat's
whiskers. In computer terms,
Aimie: It actually makes things easier to remember that way. [iconically]
DrVicars: Oh sure, we are "lucky" there are so many signs that look like what they represent.
Aimie: Like for meat you grab the flesh of your hand!
DrVicars: Also, if any of you need help remembering a sign I'd be happy to give
you a hint how
DrVicars: If there are no more questions about numbers, we will move on to our next
DrVicars: Your homework assignment for next week is to read the History and the
[NAD stands for The National Association for the Deaf]
[Various questions relating to the web site are discussed, KC asked where the NAD is located.]
Vince: NAD's address is 814 Thayer Avenue, Silver Springs, MD 20910
Buzz: Should we be able to sign letters and numbers by now or no?
DrVicars: Yes. I would hope. Slowly of course but with more practice you'll improve.
Aimie: What do you think of the book "Signing Illustrated by Mickey Flodin?"
DrVicars: Mickey does excellent work. I like his stuff in general.
Aimie: I like the book...great illustrations.
Monica: How would you suggest we get practice signing?
DrVicars: Okay about practice. You need to tie into the Deaf community. I know
that will be
You might want to try your local library's audio/visual dept. Ask the librarian
about videos that
Check with your local college and or community education organizations.
Call the "night-school" director of your school district and ask about classes.
Check with your state's division of services to the deaf.
If you are the religious type, check with your church for deaf outreach services.
Subscribe to the nationwide deaf magazines: The NAD Broadcaster (301) 587-1788,
When you get the newspapers, look in the "What's Happening" sections and try
to find activities
Ask the Deaf people in your area if there is a list of Deaf Organizations and contact
Monica: Great! Thanks for the ideas. That helps a lot.
Crazy: What's the difference between "nice/clean" and "excuse"
DrVicars: The sign nice and clean is pretty much the same. I bend
"EXCUSE" slightly at the
Crazy: Left or right?
DrVicars: Your right hand moves across left.
Crazy: I want to know if it is the right hand knuckles that need to be bent or left?
DrVicars: The the large knuckles of the right hand bend. The left hand stays
flat. The tips of the
Crazy: Ok, thanks.
WELLEBY: Someone asked how we should practice? Well, I teach my friend what I
DrVicars: Good idea as long as you learned it correctly from your teacher and you are
Lii: How about signing in front of a mirror? That would also give practice in reading as well.
DrVicars: Some people like it. I have no problem with it.
Sharp: I've been teaching my 6 year old and he practices with me.
Kloos: How high should we be able to sign on the numbers?
DrVicars: infinity <grin> No really, just to the thousands, for this
class. To do the larger
DrVicars: Fine, time to close class.
Lii: Thanks for the class. It was fun and informative. Goodbye, all.:)
[Lots of "Thank you," "Great Class," and "See ya next week," comments.]
Closing "Chat Log #2"