ASL: "F"


The American Sign Language letter "F": 




QUESTION:
An American Sign Language instructor / researcher writes:

"Would you say there is (or is not) a barely discernable difference between the letter F and the sign for 9?
If you say there is a difference, how do you explain it to your students?
Whether there is a slight difference of not - during rapid signing I would say the signer does not always make the F and the 9 perfectly so the difference becomes a moot point, and/or the difference is so slight that it is not discernable.
"


RESPONSE:
People are diverse -- and imperfect.  Some people will learn a handshape a certain way and fossilize it.  In the mind of such a person the handshape upon which they have fossilized is "the" right way.  Some people have decided and continue to believe that an "F" is done one way and a "9" is done differently.

Other people will claim there is no difference. 

Both are right -- but at different times.

Observation informs us:
In general both "F" and "9" are signed by forming a circle using the thumb and index fingers.
Often "F" and "9" are produced exactly the same.
Other times "F" and "9" are produced differently. 

Let's consider some of the differences and when such differences occur.

Fingerspell the following words three times quickly:
afar, affix, afire
afar, affix, afire
afar, affix, afire

Now notice how your thumb tends to make contact with the side of your index finger while doing the "F" in those words?

When other fingerspelled letters precede or follow the letter "F" and/or the number "9" the preceding and following letters or numbers influence the shape and/or production (orientation, movement path, duration, speed, etc.) of the letter "F" and/or the number "9."

Spelling an "A" just before spelling an "F" influences the "F" via the process of "assimilation."  The "F" hand assimilates some of the characteristics of the "A" hand because doing so is efficient and faster.

Next: Spell this three times fast:  SF, SF, SF
When we sign "San Francisco" (via spelling SF) we tend to leave the index finger curled up (left over from doing the letter "S") and the thumb is in front of the finger.

The number "9" has a movement variation that the letter "F" does not.  The number 9 when done in isolation can be reformed which is to say, it can have internal movement.  The internal movement version consists of tapping the tips of the index finger and thumb.  This "tapping" version is not seen in the letter "F."  Thus if you need to sign a password or serial number including both an "F" and a "9" you can do so by doing a typical "F" and then use the "tapped" version of a "9."  (This works well for "W6" too.)   It is important to mention though that the "tapping" version of "9" is a variation -- not the "only" way to do it (and the tapped version is certainly not used when signing larger [multi-digit] numbers).

Another difference happens when we consider double letter or double number versions. 
When signing 99 the palm orientation changes from palm forward to palm down and then the hand does a small arc toward the dominant side (ending palm down).  A double "FF" doesn't do the downward palm orientation (or at least not to the extent that we see it in the number "99."   Thus we can sign "99 French Fries" without too much confusion.  The isolated "FF" uses a slight forward jab (palm forward) arcs backward, to the dominant side, and forward again to show the second "F."  However a double "F" occurring at the end of word tends to slide (a very short distance to the dominant side).  For example, spell OFF and/or CLIFF.

Next, sign the year"1999."

If you are using the version that uses a "10" as the beginning handshape you will notice the same type of thumb variation as occurs when spelling words like "afar / afire."

Worth mentioning here is that 9 has variations of internal movement we typically do not see in "F."  For example, in some regions we see the number 19 expressed via rubbing (twice) the thumb-side of the distal (far) knuckle of the index finger on the pad of the thumb.  Also when incorporating "9" into the numbers 67, 68, 69, 96, 97, and 98 -- we tend to incorporate a side to side pivot of the wrist from the 6 toward the higher digit.

 



* The meaning of any particular circled index finger and thumb handshape (and whether it is is an "F," a "9," a depictive handshape, an English initialization, or an arbitrary (non-morphemic) handshape simply used for articulation of a sign) can only be determined with any confidence via context.

* The exact position of the index and thumb of an "F" and "9" varies due to coarticulation.

* Some people promote the idea that there is a consistent difference between an "F" and a "9" and that the difference consists of the "F" being done by touching the tip of the index finger to the "pad" of the thumb and the "9" using more of a pad to pad touch. This is likely due to the occasional use of the version of "9" that uses an internal movement consisting of a double tap -- which is a form of coarticulation that tends to cause more of a pad to pad contact. Thus "one" of the permutations of "9" does indeed have of a pad to pad contact whereas such pad to pad contact is rarely used for the letter "F." (However it does occur, for example: BFF).

* As a teacher do not waste time misinforming students that an "F" is fundamentally somehow different from a "9." Instead inform our students that in general "F's" and "9's" tend to look like a circled index and thumb with the other fingers straight and (typically) spread somewhat.


Also see: COARTICULATION

 


Notes:
Regarding the similarity and/or differences between “9” and “F.”
In American Sign Language, the number "9" and the letter "F" are generally signed the same but there are occasional differences. For example: The number 9 is sometimes tapped: The index and thumb come together twice. The tap will generally not show up in double or higher digit numbers. Nor will the tap show up if you are quickly counting in a series (for example: 1, 2, 3, 4...9, 10, 11) etc. Often though -- when done in isolation -- the number 9 uses a double tap. The same goes for numbers 6, 7, and 8. These numbers are not always tapped when done in isolation – but often enough that it is considered a “standard method” for those times when you are signing in a clear and deliberate way.
The number 9 is formed differently when signing "9 o'clock" (the tip of the thumb and index touch) than when signing the year 1954 (the pad of the thumb touches the side of the index finger).
Also, the handshape of the letter F will change depending on the preceding letter. (This is true of many fingerspelled letters). Try spelling "Africa" and notice how the "F" looks like the "9" did when signing 1954. Then compare that to the "F" shape when spelling "NFL." The thumb placement is totally different for the "F" in Africa vs the "F" in NFL. Now do the abbreviation for San Francisco ("SF"). The thumb placement is quite different again.
For most everyday purposes the number "9" and the letter "F" can be thought of as sharing the same basic handshape -- however that handshape does vary slightly according to context.
- Dr. Bill

 



Notes:
For a very large version of the "F" graphic, click on this thumbnail:
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